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Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 17:44
par Tosach
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 6
78 Amady21 ATIENZA Daniel
79 Blouss_ GESLIN Anthony
80 Valverde56 RUJANO Jose
81 Iguane GIUNTI Massimo
82 CPTmatros ASTARLOZA Mikel
83 OlivWax BOOM Lars
84 Tosach IGLINSKIY Maxim
85 Doutey_fdjeux_fan KIRYIENKA Vasil
86 Tontontrotsko LANGEVELD Sebastian
87 Nopik WEYLANDT Wouter

88 Ray TONDO Xavier
89 CaramelMou HIVERT Jonathan
90 Akaion PEREZ Santiago
91 Ancelin VELITS Peter
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 17:45
par Tosach
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion
94 CaramelMou
95 Tontontrotsko
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan
97 OlivWax
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 17:57
par Nopik
Personne ne veut un de mes noms ?

Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:02
par CaramelMou
Moi je veux bien s'ils sont encore jouables en P4 vu que j'ai mon choix là ... si Akaion ne me le pique pas.
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:04
par Akaion
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou
95 Tontontrotsko
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan
97 OlivWax
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:05
par CaramelMou
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan
97 OlivWax
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:20
par Tontontrotsko
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan
97 OlivWax
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:51
par doutey_fdjeux_fan
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 18:59
par OlivWax
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 19:04
par CPTmatros
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros WEENING Pieter
99 Iguane
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 20:19
par Tosach
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Bertolini, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros WEENING Pieter
99 Iguane BERTOLINI Alessandro
100 Valverde56
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 23:15
par valverde-56
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Bertolini, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Sorensen, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros WEENING Pieter
99 Iguane BERTOLINI Alessandro
100 Valverde56 SØRENSEN Chris Anker
101 Blouss_
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 23:33
par Tosach
Hutarovich n'est pas autorisé.
Seulement 1 année en conti en 2007. Ce n'est pas suffisant.
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 04 mai 2021, 23:56
par valverde-56
Chris Anker Sørensen ça passe ?
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 00:00
par Tosach
valverde-56 a écrit : 04 mai 2021, 23:56
Chris Anker Sørensen ça passe ?
Oui

Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 10:05
par blouss_
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Bertolini, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lastras, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Sorensen, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros WEENING Pieter
99 Iguane BERTOLINI Alessandro
100 Valverde56 SØRENSEN Chris Anker
101 Blouss_ LASTRAS Pablo
102 Amady21
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 11:52
par Tosach
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Bertolini, Boom, Boonen, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lastras, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Parra, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Schumacher, Sella, Sorensen, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 7
92 Ancelin USOV Alexander
93 Akaion GADRET John
94 CaramelMou CHICCHI Francesco
95 Tontontrotsko NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
96 Doutey_fdjeux_fan LE MEVEL Christophe
97 OlivWax NAZON Jean-Patrick
98 CPTmatros WEENING Pieter
99 Iguane BERTOLINI Alessandro
100 Valverde56 SØRENSEN Chris Anker
101 Blouss_ LASTRAS Pablo
102 Amady21 PARRA Ivan Ramiro
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 11:55
par Tosach
Albasini, Anton, Astarloza, Atienza, Ballan, Bennati, Bertolini, Boom, Boonen, Bossoni, Bozic, Brajkovic, Breschel, Cavendish, Chicchi, Ciolek, Contador, Costa, Cunego, Danielson, Davis A, Dekker T, Devolder, De Waele, Dumoulin S, Efimkin V, Farrar, R.Feillu, Gadret, Gasparotto, Gavazzi F, Gesink, Gerrans, Gilbert, Giunti, Gomez Marchante, Goss, Greipel, Gusev, Haussler, Hesjedal, Hivert, Iglinskiy, Kashechkin, Kolobnev, Kreuziger, Kristoff, Kyryienka, Langeveld, Larsson G E, Lastras, Le Mevel, Lofkvist, Marcato, Monfort, Moos, Moreni, Moreno D., Napolitano, Nazon JP, Nibali, Niemiec, Nozal, Nuyens, Parra, Perez, Pineau, Popovych, Pozzovivo, Rasmussen, Ricco, Rolland, Roche, Roelandts, Rojas, Rujano, Sanchez LL, Schleck A, Schleck Fr, Scarponi, Scheirlinckx S., Schumacher, Sella, Sorensen, Spilak, Steegmans, Szmyd, Terpstra, Thomas, Tondo, Uran, Usov, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Van den Broeck, Velits, Ventoso, Visconti, Weening, Wegmann, Weylandt, Wiggins
Tour 8
103 Amady21 SCHEIRLINCKX Staf
104 Iguane BOSSONI Paolo
105 Akaion
106 Ancelin
Tour 9
107 Ancelin
108 Iguane
109 Amady21
Tour 10
110 Ancelin
Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 11:57
par CPTmatros
Bossoni je le voyais bien chez Iguane celui-là.

Re: Challenge historique - Draft 3
Publié : 05 mai 2021, 12:06
par OlivWax
Qui sont ces gens ?
